tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post117396921324815150..comments2024-03-02T22:28:45.521-05:00Comments on Inveresk Street Ingrate: SPGB Talking ShopImposs1904http://www.blogger.com/profile/04043116442576404667noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1175081627391161692007-03-28T08:33:00.000-04:002007-03-28T08:33:00.000-04:00D2W wrote:"I nicked that idea from you, didn't I?"...D2W wrote:<BR/><I>"I nicked that idea from you, didn't I?"</I><BR/><BR/>Not sure,<BR/><BR/>it sounds too clever to have fallen from my lips.Imposs1904https://www.blogger.com/profile/04043116442576404667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1175035189432132372007-03-27T19:39:00.000-04:002007-03-27T19:39:00.000-04:00Whereas you Darren are (still) far too young to be...Whereas you Darren are (still) <I>far</I> too young to be in the SPGB :Dvoltaires_priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00346308174248473666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1175010180806008472007-03-27T12:43:00.000-04:002007-03-27T12:43:00.000-04:00"Every political party has a hostility clause. Onl...<I>"Every political party has a hostility clause. Only the SPGB is honest (dumb?) enough to write it out and place it on all their literature."</I><BR/><BR/>D2W,<BR/><BR/>You're much too wise for one so (relatively) young.Imposs1904https://www.blogger.com/profile/04043116442576404667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1174688362893451192007-03-23T19:19:00.000-04:002007-03-23T19:19:00.000-04:00Despairtowhere; You see, that last bit there (abou...Despairtowhere; <BR/><BR/>You see, that last bit there (about sneering snottiness) was a bit of a let-down. After all, for all their flaws, the AWL isn't the group with the "you've got to be dead nasty to other groups" clause (I paraphrase rather than quote, obviously) in its constitution. That's why I always take apparent flashes of hostility from SPGB'ers with a pinch of salt. I know y'all are just doing yer jobs... ;)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Darren;<BR/><BR/>Might well have been a young Kat Fletcher there - she was certainly in the AWL for a while, although to my recollection that would have been before her time. We're both knocking on a bit relative to her, you know (although obviously I've aged remarkably well! :D)voltaires_priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00346308174248473666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1174296472593279462007-03-19T06:27:00.000-04:002007-03-19T06:27:00.000-04:00VP,Read the post again. Not just for my silky pros...VP,<BR/><BR/>Read the post again. Not just for my silky prose, but because it clearly states that when I mention Dave by name I'm referring to the Lucas Arms debate and not to the Caxton House debate. (He debated with the AWL twice.)<BR/><BR/>And with reference to the Caxton House debate, you're probably right that I did say <I>"We got our arses kicked"</I> - apologies Dave, if you are reading this - but not so much from the debate itself, but from the piss-poor contributions from the SPGBers on the floor in the discussion period. (i.e myself and some other SPGBer at the time.)<BR/><BR/>But I say, Dave was already semi-detached from the SPGB at that time, and that's why I remember him approaching the debate from a philosophical standpoint rather than from the basis of political differences. I remember that quite clearly because we discussed the matter prior to the debate itself in a chippy just by Archway tube station. ;-)<BR/><BR/><I>"And which AWL politico was that?"</I><BR/>OK, my imagination might be getting the better of me but wasn't it a young Kat Fletcher?Imposs1904https://www.blogger.com/profile/04043116442576404667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1174294441558627972007-03-19T05:54:00.000-04:002007-03-19T05:54:00.000-04:00That being the case, you might need to edit your p...That being the case, you might need to edit your post - which quite clearly says "Dave Flynn" and not "Adam Buick". If indeed that was the one, then I wasn't there.<BR/><BR/>On Caxton House however, I believe "we got our arses kicked" is a (more or less verbatim) quote from none other than your good self, at that Caxton House debate. It was largely because Dave had quickly become flustered when challenged in the debate, if I remember rightly. It stuck in my mind because I was unused to hearing such candour from members of other leftie groups. <BR/><BR/>And which AWL politico was that?voltaires_priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00346308174248473666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1174260675597674912007-03-18T20:31:00.000-04:002007-03-18T20:31:00.000-04:00Nah,You're thinking of a different debate. I remem...Nah,<BR/><BR/>You're thinking of a different debate. I remember the debate you were referring to, and it was less a case of Kate Buckell kicking his arse, and more a case of a semi-detached - from the SPGB - Dave, half-heartedly arguing the SPGB case. (Though I do remember Chris Hickey coming across as a bit of a dick during that debate).<BR/><BR/>I was referring more to the debate at ULU in '95, when Adam Buick debated Mark Osborn, and then the debate at the Lucas Arms when I was a member of the AWL - early '97 - when snottiness abounded.<BR/><BR/>Back to Caxton House - whatever happened to that AWL student politico you were chatting to at the time? ;-)Imposs1904https://www.blogger.com/profile/04043116442576404667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1174258222811625262007-03-18T19:50:00.000-04:002007-03-18T19:50:00.000-04:00If truth be told, that isn't the way I remember it...If truth be told, that isn't the way I remember it. As far as I can recall, you had already rejoined the SPGB at the time of the debate, the debate was at Caxton House, it was Kate Buckell who the AWL put up, and you thought she kicked Dave's arse. <BR/><BR/>Not that you can say that in public obviously, given the "you've got to be aggressively sectarian clause" in the SPGB's constitution or whatever it's called. :P :P :Pvoltaires_priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00346308174248473666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1174217843490481202007-03-18T08:37:00.000-04:002007-03-18T08:37:00.000-04:00VP,You know that I speak the truth. ;-)And what wa...VP,<BR/><BR/>You know that I speak the truth. ;-)<BR/><BR/>And what was that you say about the AWL being mutton dressed as lamb?Imposs1904https://www.blogger.com/profile/04043116442576404667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791096.post-1174174395669164002007-03-17T20:33:00.000-04:002007-03-17T20:33:00.000-04:00LOL - accusations of snottiness and sneering comin...LOL - accusations of snottiness and sneering coming from an SPGB member. Next week, accusations of smelling of mutton coming from a burning sheep ;)voltaires_priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00346308174248473666noreply@blogger.com